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Post by Xrshad Shail on Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:34 pm

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Re: Brainstorm

Post by Aemon Greyfeather on Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:37 pm

Hi Smile

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Re: Brainstorm

Post by Emma Westerling on Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:38 pm

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Re: Brainstorm

Post by Aemon Greyfeather on Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:39 pm

The first big question for me is:

Should we care about this actuall AvA or its better to leave it as now and think of the next one?
What we learnt until now, what we miss or hate and what we loved?

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Re: Brainstorm

Post by WulfBrigg on Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:42 pm

I think our ranking at this point is only a matter of prestige or pride. We can't get to a point where there's a reward, though we have significant standing in a couple of regions. I'd say we start planning ahead.
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Re: Brainstorm

Post by Aemon Greyfeather on Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:43 pm

I agree with you, WulfBrigg

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Re: Brainstorm

Post by Xrshad Shail on Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:44 pm

How do we find out our strength and weakness without doing things in unison
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Re: Brainstorm

Post by Emma Westerling on Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:44 pm

So, I would like to have clear direction on where to send my garrison. At this point, I have been doing adventures to gather resources and level up my guys. This is not productive for the alliance but I am not sure where to go. I have 42 CP and strong ss but would like to know the best place to send them. Most of the strongest are vanguard so the south is a waste for them. My main character has all 3 talents around 500.

Please tell me how I can be the most helpful. I dont know what is coming in the 3rd wave of the WE to know what strategy is most prudent.

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Re: Brainstorm

Post by Xrshad Shail on Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:47 pm

Without knowing where we can reach, how can we improve ?
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Re: Brainstorm

Post by Aemon Greyfeather on Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:47 pm

@Xshrad
I dont know. First we need a list of all members with there strength. Jay messages me in the beginning with such a survey ingame.

@Emma
Thats exact my problem.

I think we should ask friends in high ranking alliances how they do AvA.

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Re: Brainstorm

Post by Xrshad Shail on Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:53 pm

IMO , we did mistake by dividing team on basis of region.
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Re: Brainstorm

Post by WulfBrigg on Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:54 pm

We started out really well, but I think the fault was a decrease in communication, especially concerning a clear goal.
For the time being I think we have the most to gain by finishing what upgrades can be done quickly, prepping for stage 3, and maintaining just enough presence where we won't be poached (mainly helping allies). An active approach to gain rank requires an infrastructure we just don't have right now.
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Re: Brainstorm

Post by WulfBrigg on Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:57 pm

XS: I have some ideas concerning the region divisions for next time
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Re: Brainstorm

Post by Aemon Greyfeather on Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:57 pm

I agree with you both.

That thought in the beginning to push the south as a reagion we have a good standing was great.
But we were no consequently enough.
If we want i higher camp than lvl10 we need to split our members. Some produce only traders, others only PtP for spoils etc.

Also, Alyshia did a great job in diplomacy in the south.

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Re: Brainstorm

Post by WulfBrigg on Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:00 pm

Yes, Alysia should be commended for her coordination of the South.
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Re: Brainstorm

Post by Xrshad Shail on Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:08 pm

Sure we can discuss that.
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Re: Brainstorm

Post by Aemon Greyfeather on Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:09 pm

I think she had many thoughts to share with us. Hope she joins htis discussion soon.

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Re: Brainstorm

Post by Xrshad Shail on Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:30 pm

Agree that we should try experimenting for next AvA. Let's consider that we build camps in two regions only as suggested by Attila. We can experiment in this AvA for that . Any other suggestion/ idea ?
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Re: Brainstorm

Post by WulfBrigg on Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:49 pm

I have an idea I will write up later.
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Re: Brainstorm

Post by Jay-D Dragonsbreath on Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:56 pm

Yes, it's a good plan. We focus chiefly on one region only, and build level 1 or 2 camps in one other region for auxiliary purposes and gathering of victory points.
If we go for one region, it must be the WEST. My reasons for this are:
1) We're a Lannister alliance.
2) Popularity-wise, the Westerlands is the least crowded region. We can achieve a high rank with comparatively lower victory points (VP) than other regions.

Now, in my opinion, the auxiliary region should be the STORMLANDS. Reasons:
1) Historically, we've done well in the Stormlands.
2) Comparing mid-level ranks with all regions (rank 50-150), the Stormlands is one of the least popular regions. We're comparing mid-level ranks since we won't go very far in our auxiliary region anyway.

The Imperator and myself have recently thought and agreed upon the following approach to the next AvA:
- Build all camps in Stormlands to level 1 or 2, one each for battle, trade and intrigue.
- Build all camps in Westerlands to level 10 or higher, one each for battle, trade and intrigue.
- Change the current 4-Warden system to a 3-Warden system, with one Warden each for Battle, Trade and Intrigue.


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Re: Brainstorm

Post by Xrshad Shail on Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:00 pm

Sounds good to me but let's have input from all other members Smile
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Re: Brainstorm

Post by Jay-D Dragonsbreath on Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:04 pm

Yes, of course. I'll enumerate the advantages and disadvantages of the above system. The ones that have occurred to me, anyway.

ADVANTAGES:
- Communication and administration becomes much less diverse, which consequently makes my job much easier Razz Very Happy
- We can achieve a high rank in one region, and address ourselves with pride. It bugs me that we still haven't broken the Westerlands top 25.
- Since grouped attacks have become much easier, the collective gain of VP becomes more concentrated, and since we'll be at a high rank, this does more good than bad.

DISADVANTAGES:
- Help to allies will be limited.
- Camp repairs and upgrades will go through the damn roof Razz
- If we make any high-level enemies, war will render us bankrupt, and we'll have nowhere to run to; auxiliary region can't hold enough garrisons (max. 18-20 per person).

I would like you all to discuss this, and please give your inputs to it. Any suggestions/modifications/criticisms are welcome.

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Re: Brainstorm

Post by LucyLocke on Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:24 am

One thing I learned from this AvA is this: Each region we will be garrisoning/fighting in MUST have a camp dedicated to Fight. Attacking enemies from an all barter region (like the Riverlands right now) is both inevitable and kind of stupid.

I'll add other thoughts later, but wanted to put this here before I forget about it.

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Re: Brainstorm

Post by LucyLocke on Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:35 am

I also think Emma is very much right: We lost focus and direction in the South. I also don't know what we are doing most of the time. I even branched into upgrading other camps that needed only silver, just to have something to do with my thief ss. At this point we are not able to upgrade the barter camps without traders, and only a few players as we are in the south can produce only so much traders a day. One more reason why it is wrong to have all camps of the same type.

Alysia did a great job with getting us allies, but maybe we also need some enemies as well to get us going Very Happy

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Re: Brainstorm

Post by Xrshad Shail on Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:02 pm

Therefore what Jay suggest makes sense having action based garrisons and camp in next AvA. We are doing exceptionally well in this AvA. With lesser members than last AvA. We made some wrong choices but we learn from mistake and improve. As far as this AvA is concern I wish we all can garrison in one region have a go at any stronger alliance to see where as an ALLIANCE we stand.
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